From thomas.petazzoni@enix.org Sat Apr 20 18:16:20 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: osdev-meeting@enix.org Received: from crazy (dyn-212-83-181-140.ppp.tiscali.fr [212.83.181.140]) by the-doors.enix.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D9B10048 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 18:16:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: by crazy (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5128E1A85F; Sat, 20 Apr 2002 18:28:46 +0200 (CEST) To: osdev-meeting@enix.org From: Thomas Petazzoni Original-Original-Sender: thomas.petazzoni@enix.org X-Home-Page: http://www.enix.org/~thomas/ Date: 20 Apr 2002 18:28:46 +0200 Message-ID: <877kn2qqpt.fsf@enix.org> Lines: 33 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Osdev-meeting] Document Sender: osdev-meeting-admin@the-doors.enix.org Errors-To: osdev-meeting-admin@the-doors.enix.org X-BeenThere: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Salut a tous, Un document servant a decrire notre manifestation pour la recherche de sponsors est en cours de redaction. Il est dispo sur le CVS de KOS. Pour l'instant en read only pour ceux qui n'ont pas d'acces R/W au repository de kos (ca changera surement bientot). cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@kos.enix.org:/var/cvs/kos login mot de passe : rien cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@kos.enix.org:/var/cvs/kos co osdm J'aimerais que ce document soit vraiment un document de presentation de la manifestation, qu'on puisse envoyer tel quel a des soci=E9t=E9s. = Il faudrait dans la mesure du possible qu'il soit pret d'ici un mois. D'ici la il faut definir plusieurs choses : - dur=E9e de la manifestation - placement dans l'ann=E9e 2003 - qui va venir ? - moyens techniques informatiques ? - bouffe ? - logement ? - deroulement de la manifestation ? Evidemment toutes les idees sont les bienvenues. Thomas --=20 PETAZZONI Thomas - thomas.petazzoni@enix.org - UIN : 34937744 (Perso) http://www.enix.org/~thomas/ (KOS) http://kos.enix.org/=20 (Club LinUT) http://club-linut.enix.org From thomas.petazzoni@enix.org Mon Apr 22 21:44:59 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: osdev-meeting@enix.org Received: from crazy (dyn-212-83-181-173.ppp.tiscali.fr [212.83.181.173]) by the-doors.enix.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB861004C for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 21:44:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: by crazy (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 178DB1A80A; Mon, 22 Apr 2002 21:55:24 +0200 (CEST) To: osdev-meeting@enix.org From: Thomas Petazzoni Original-Original-Sender: thomas.petazzoni@enix.org X-Home-Page: http://www.enix.org/~thomas/ Date: 22 Apr 2002 21:55:23 +0200 Message-ID: <874ri31pas.fsf@enix.org> Lines: 95 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Osdev-meeting] Mail de d2 Sender: osdev-meeting-admin@the-doors.enix.org Errors-To: osdev-meeting-admin@the-doors.enix.org X-BeenThere: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Bonjour, Aujourd'hui, David Decotigny nous a envoye un message de commit fort interessant concernant l'organisation de l'Os dev meeting. Comme tout le monde ne recoit pas les messages de commit, j'ai recopie le mail ici : --- Debut mail --- Pour l'instant, j'ai pas grand chose a ajouter. Mais je vais reflechir, promis. En particulier, le type de manif est encore vague, et sa definition va de paire avec la mise en place d'un calendrier plus formel. D'un autre cote, le calendrier depend de quels intervenants seront la, etc... Pour la phase d'accueil, si y'a une 50aine de personnes, ca peut etre pas mal de faire intervenir les gens par equipe de dev ou en solo si ils viennnent en electron libre, qu'ils se presentent, sans ordi sans rien : decrivent leur projet brievement en groupe, oralement et tout a fait informellement, puis se presentent eux-meme a tour de role. Apres, 2eme phase : les "shows" de presentation des projets pour ceux qui veulent : slides, show de la mort, demo, ... En insistant bien sur 1/ les originalites meme si c'est pas termine (par exemple : fonctionnement en equipe distante/locale, perfs de l'OS, modele, features, portabilite, ...), 2/ les trucs qui marchent, 3/ les trucs qui restent a faire. Ca ferait une entree en matiere qui permettrait de savoir qui est qui, que fait quel OS, comment ca marche (en gros), comment il est developpe, etc. Concernant le show, je pense que fournir une serie de points sur lesquels les shows peuvent partir est important (quel OS pour la machine hote, quel langage, quel modele [monolith/micronoyau/autre], quelle machine cible, debugging, infos techniques : multi-processus/tread, vm, temps-reel, ...) =3D> une sorte de mini-plan. Sinon ca va se barrer dans tous les sens, et on risque de pas trop voir ce qui se cache derriere (surtout si les mecs ont pas l'habitude). Apres ca, certains peuvent faire des presentations plus techniques et detaillees (2eme jour ?) sur les features originales de certains OS. Eventuellement en s'y mettant a plusieurs equipes de dev sur 1 point particulier (genre : VMM SVR4, gestion mm mode protege x86, ...). Ca, je pense que c'est le genre de truc a prevoir sous la forme d'un calendrier a l'avance, histoire que si plusieurs equipes presentent le meme truc, elles le fassent ensemble, ou alors 1 seule seulement s'en occupe. D'ailleurs, je pense a un truc, pour les mecs qui viennent et font partie d'une equipe de dev, ca serait bien (et ca pourrait aider a la "selection") qu'ils envoient une description breve du travail de leur equipe (caracteristiques de l'os, histoire, combien de developpeurs, comment est developpe l'os, pedigree des developpeurs [etudiants, pro,...], maturite de l'OS). Pour ceux qui viennent en electron libre, demander leurs experiences en terme de patches par exemple ou de comprehension sur divers OS libres ou non libres peut aussi etre pas mal. Pour les journees qui suivent, le truc de reve, c'est que ca suscite ET du brain storming, ET du codage de bourrin. On peut imaginer qu'au debut les equipes evoluent un peu de leur cote, mais que les presentations du debut suscitent des interets, et qu'au cours du coding, une emulation joue, que des equipes aillent voir les autres equipes parce qu'elles aimeraient en savoir plus sur un point qu'elles trouvent interessant, etc... Bref, au debut, ca va peut-etre ressembler a une coding party. Mais si on est optimiste, on peut imaginer que les presentations du debut auront eveille la curiosite de quelques uns, qui veulent alors en savoir plus... c'est la que le brain storming peut intervenir. Bref, en gros, j'ai l'impression que c'est le debut qui devrait etre structur=E9, afin de mener les gens a s'interesser, a vouloir en savoir plus, a eveiller la curiosite des autres. Apres, faut esperer qu'une fois lance, le woodstock du coding qui suit pourrait devenir du brain storming inter-equipe. C'est peut-etre un peu idealiste tout ca. Car ce qui est a craindre, c'est que ca derape en "mon OS est mieux que le tien. D'abord.". Et la ca serait con. Si l'etape de presentation est bon enfant, faut esperer que la suite "ideale" (cf supra) viendra d'elle-meme. PS : si il manque des 'h', c'est normal (mon clavier est pourri) --- Fin mail --- Evidemment, je suis pleinement d'accord avec d2 et ce sur tous les points. Je dirais meme qu'il faut s'arranger pour : 1. que les gens se connaissent avant (mailing list, chats ?) 2. que l'ambiance reste bonne enfant et pas "mon OS est mieux que le tien". Qu'en pensez-vous a HurdFR ? Thomas --=20 PETAZZONI Thomas - thomas.petazzoni@enix.org - UIN : 34937744 (Perso) http://www.enix.org/~thomas/ (KOS) http://kos.enix.org/=20 (Club LinUT) http://club-linut.enix.org From mejj@humanoidz.insa-lyon.fr Tue Apr 23 14:24:31 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: osdev-meeting@enix.org Received: from csiges2.insa-lyon.fr (insa.insa-lyon.fr [134.214.78.56]) by the-doors.enix.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4E6510034 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 14:24:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: by csiges2.insa-lyon.fr (Postfix, from userid 2266) id 9E60B12025; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 14:26:13 +0200 (DFT) Received: from humanoidz (acces24.insa-lyon.fr [134.214.80.205]) by csiges2.insa-lyon.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0820132A for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 14:23:39 +0200 (DFT) Received: from mejj by humanoidz with local (Exim 3.16 #1 (Debian)) id 16zzRS-00008U-00 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 14:30:42 +0200 From: Julien Munier To: osdev-meeting@enix.org In-reply-to: <874ri31pas.fsf@enix.org> (thomas.petazzoni@enix.org) Subject: Re: [Osdev-meeting] Mail de d2 X-Subliminal: My Emacs is fantastic X-Home-Page: http://www.enix.org/~mejj/ References: <874ri31pas.fsf@enix.org> Message-Id: Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 14:30:42 +0200 X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by AMaViS 0.2.1-pre3 (http://amavis.org/) Sender: osdev-meeting-admin@the-doors.enix.org Errors-To: osdev-meeting-admin@the-doors.enix.org X-BeenThere: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Salut, je voulais juste insister sur le fait qu'il faut - et c'est vraiment un imperatif - prevoir des issues de secours au cas ou la *mayonnaise* idealisee par d2 ne prend, pas. Eventuellement, on peut prevoir deux scenarios, ou en tout cas un moyen d'occuper les gens sur trois jours, quitte a supprimer une partie "bouche trou" si on s'en que les gens on envie de ce que propose david et que j'aimerais egalement voir apparaitre... Julien... toujours aussi anxieux et precautionneux ;-) From mmenal@vote.abew.net Tue Apr 23 15:24:02 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org Received: from woof (cha213245076123.chello.fr [213.245.76.123]) by the-doors.enix.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A24D10034 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 15:24:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mmenal by woof with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1700QN-0000u7-00 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2002 15:33:39 +0200 From: Manuel@the-doors.enix.org, Menal In-Reply-To: <874ri31pas.fsf@enix.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/21.2 Date: 23 Apr 2002 15:33:30 +0200 Message-ID: <87adru1qvp.fsf@hurdfr.org> Lines: 179 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Sender: osdev-meeting-admin@the-doors.enix.org Errors-To: osdev-meeting-admin@the-doors.enix.org X-BeenThere: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 22 Apr 2002 21:55:23 +0200, tu as dit :=20 > Bonjour, Bonjour Thomas, > Aujourd'hui, David Decotigny nous a envoye un message de commit fort > interessant concernant l'organisation de l'Os dev meeting. Comme tout > le monde ne recoit pas les messages de commit, j'ai recopie le mail > ici : Effectivement, merci. Je ne sais pas trop ce que tu entends par =AB message de commit =BB, donc :-) > --- Debut mail --- > Pour la phase d'accueil, si y'a une 50aine de personnes, ca peut etre > pas mal de faire intervenir les gens par equipe de dev ou en solo si > ils viennnent en electron libre, qu'ils se presentent, sans ordi sans > rien : decrivent leur projet brievement en groupe, oralement et tout a > fait informellement, puis se presentent eux-meme a tour de > role. Apres, 2eme phase : les "shows" de presentation des projets pour > ceux qui veulent : slides, show de la mort, demo, ... En insistant > bien sur 1/ les originalites meme si c'est pas termine (par exemple : > fonctionnement en equipe distante/locale, perfs de l'OS, modele, > features, portabilite, ...), 2/ les trucs qui marchent, 3/ les trucs > qui restent a faire. Ca ferait une entree en matiere qui permettrait > de savoir qui est qui, que fait quel OS, comment ca marche (en gros), > comment il est developpe, etc. =C7a me semble =EAtre n=E9cessaire si on veut pas passer le temps de la ren= contre =E0 r=E9p=E9ter les m=EAmes choses chacun de son c=F4t=E9 concernant son projet= , et rester omnibul=E9 sur son truc en faisant de l'advocacy sans s'int=E9resser aux au= tres projets. En ce qui concerne HurdFr, on aura d=E9j=E0 r=E9fl=E9chi - et on a= d=E9j=E0 - r=E9fl=E9chi =E0 ces pr=E9sentations, et une conf' devrait avoir lieu avant= , donc ce sera rod=E9 :-) > Concernant le show, je pense que fournir une serie de points sur > lesquels les shows peuvent partir est important (quel OS pour la > machine hote, quel langage, quel modele [monolith/micronoyau/autre], > quelle machine cible, debugging, infos techniques : > multi-processus/tread, vm, temps-reel, ...) =3D> une sorte de > mini-plan. Sinon ca va se barrer dans tous les sens, et on risque de > pas trop voir ce qui se cache derriere (surtout si les mecs ont pas > l'habitude). Oui. AMHA, il faudra une esp=E8ce de carte d'identit=E9 assez d=E9taill=E9e= et r=E9fl=E9chie que chaque projet devra remplir - et Dieu sait que ce n'est pas une t=E2che =E9vidente tant les projets sont divers, qui devra =EAtre compl=E9t=E9e par= une pr=E9sentation =E0 l'oral plus =AB libre =BB, o=F9 chaque projet pr=E9sente= ra ses sp=E9cifi- cit=E9s, motivations, pourquoi, comment, etc. > Apres ca, certains peuvent faire des presentations plus techniques et > detaillees (2eme jour ?) sur les features originales de certains > OS. Eventuellement en s'y mettant a plusieurs equipes de dev sur 1 > point particulier (genre : VMM SVR4, gestion mm mode protege > x86, ...). Ca, je pense que c'est le genre de truc a prevoir sous la > forme d'un calendrier a l'avance, histoire que si plusieurs equipes > presentent le meme truc, elles le fassent ensemble, ou alors 1 seule > seulement s'en occupe. Effectivement, c'est que quelque chose auquel nous n'avions pas pens=E9, et= =E7a me para=EEt une extr=EAmement bonne id=E9e. En ce qui concerne HurdFr, le Hurd= =E9tant un truc assez gros avec beaucoup de projets autour, chaque membre a en quelques sortes son domaine d'activit=E9 - tel =B5-noyau, telle partie, tel projet .= . - donc =E7a nous va parfaitement. D'autant plus que =E7a serait extr=EAmement int= =E9ressant pour tout le monde vu qu'=E0 priori, on a tous des connaissances en OSDev, = et que donc c'est plut=F4t de la technique et des internals qui nous int=E9ressent= .. > D'ailleurs, je pense a un truc, pour les mecs qui viennent et font > partie d'une equipe de dev, ca serait bien (et ca pourrait aider a la > "selection") qu'ils envoient une description breve du travail de leur > equipe (caracteristiques de l'os, histoire, combien de developpeurs, > comment est developpe l'os, pedigree des developpeurs [etudiants, > pro,...], maturite de l'OS). Pour ceux qui viennent en electron libre, > demander leurs experiences en terme de patches par exemple ou de > comprehension sur divers OS libres ou non libres peut aussi etre pas > mal. =C0 remplir avant ? Hmm, mmm'ok. Effectivement, =E7a permettrait notamment = de mettre =E7a sur un site quelconque et d'attirer les gens qui sont attir=E9s par ce= rtains projets dont ils ont d=E9j=E0 entendu parler o=F9 dont la description les i= nt=E9resse fortement - le FOSDEM[1] a bien march=E9 comme =E7a. En revanche, je pense = qu'on devrait bien pr=E9ciser que toute personne int=E9ress=E9e par l'OSDev, avec= exp=E9rience ou non, est la bienvenue, m=EAme si une exp=E9rience et des connaissances s= eront probablement requies pour bien comprendre ce qui se dit.. Selon le public, = il est aussi possible de faire des pr=E9sentations sur des sujets d'OSDev asse= z g=E9n=E9- raux, comme les diff=E9rents algos d'ordonnancement du CPU (sujet =F4 combi= en complexe..), et autres joujous. En fait, c'est =E7a qu'il faudrait d=E9fini= r: quel public ? Tous ? D=E9j=E0 exp=E9riment=E9s ? Accessibles =E0 tous ? Des endr= oits/moments pour tous et d'autres pour gens plus exp=E9riment=E9s ? Je suis pas s=FBr d= e ce point. > Pour les journees qui suivent, le truc de reve, c'est que ca suscite > ET du brain storming, ET du codage de bourrin. Aucun probl=E8me de ce point de vue l=E0, je peux assurer que m=EAme dans u= n an il nous restera du code =E0 faire et des id=E9es =E0 avoir ;-) > On peut imaginer qu'au debut les equipes evoluent un peu de leur cote, m= ais > que les presentations du debut suscitent des interets, et qu'au cours du > coding, une emulation joue, que des equipes aillent voir les autres > equipes parce qu'elles aimeraient en savoir plus sur un point qu'elles > trouvent interessant, etc... Bref, au debut, ca va peut-etre > ressembler a une coding party. Mais si on est optimiste, on peut > imaginer que les presentations du debut auront eveille la curiosite de > quelques uns, qui veulent alors en savoir plus... c'est la que le > brain storming peut intervenir. Effectivement. Il faudra voir la disposition des locaux =E9galement: s'il y= 'a possibilit=E9 d'avoir plusieurs petites salles pour les projets dont pas ma= l de d=E9veloppeurs sont pr=E9sents (les =AB developers' room =BB du FOSDEM) et = genre deux grandes salles, une ou on conderait en commun comme des bourrins et l'autre= o=F9 on s'arracherait la t=EAte =E0 propos de tel point ou tel point d'OSDev - v= ous inqui=E9tez pas pour =E7a, chez HurdFr on s'emporte souvent mais g=E9n=E9ra= lement on en vient pas aux mains :). --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Bref, en gros, j'ai l'impression que c'est le debut qui devrait etre > structur=E9, afin de mener les gens a s'interesser, a vouloir en savoir > plus, a eveiller la curiosite des autres. Apres, faut esperer qu'une > fois lance, le woodstock du coding qui suit pourrait devenir du brain > storming inter-equipe. C'est peut-etre un peu idealiste tout ca. Car > ce qui est a craindre, c'est que ca derape en "mon OS est mieux que le > tien. D'abord.". Et la ca serait con. Si l'etape de presentation est > bon enfant, faut esperer que la suite "ideale" (cf supra) viendra > d'elle-meme. --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Franchement, je pense pas que =E7a risque de devenir comme =E7a. Premi=E8re= ment parce qu'on aura probablement tous des projets radicalement diff=E9rents, qui ne = visent pas le m=EAme public et n'ont pas la m=EAme infrastructure - le Hurd et KOS= , par exemple, n'entrent pas franchement en concurrence. Pour avoir r=E9guli=E8re= ment ces derniers temps rencontr=E9 des gens sp=E9cialistes/passion=E9s d'OSDev, y'a= rarement concurrence. Except=E9 avec *quelques* d=E9veloppeurs Linux, mais il est tr= =E8s facile de les ignorer. En tous cas, on pourrait =E0 mon avis =E9viter =E7a en org= anisant des trucs communs qui feraient se s=E9parer les =E9quipes et m=E9neraient =E0 d= es discussions plus int=E9ressantes. Non, je parle pas de truc a la camp de sc= out, mais plut=F4t d'un sujet de code marrant, ou avec des contraintes tr=E8s sp= =E9cifiques - genre, une VM int=E9grable avec juste des trucs =E0 rajouter autour - rie= n =E0 modifier dedans - pour pouvoir l'int=E9grer dans tous les projets, etc. =3D= ) Id=E9es bienvenus. > PS : si il manque des 'h', c'est normal (mon clavier est pourri) En ai pas vu. [Note trollesque: Hhkb ownz.] > --- Fin mail --- > Evidemment, je suis pleinement d'accord avec d2 et ce sur tous les > points. Je dirais meme qu'il faut s'arranger pour : > 1. que les gens se connaissent avant (mailing list, chats ?) No pb. Je suis g=E9n=E9ralement sur IRC, alors, si un chan se cr=E9e, je pe= ux =EAtre l=E0-bas en permanence. #hurdfr existe sur OpenProjects, #hurd aussi. OpenProjects me semble =EAtre le r=E9seau indiqu=E9 - c'est le r=E9seau de = pr=E9dilection des projets libres, et il offre une bonne infrastructure, stable, sans spam= et lamerz qui viennent de tous coins =E0 toutes les heures. Quant =E0 la ML, = sans probl=E8me, celle-l=E0 me va, maintenant que j'ai retrouv=E9 mon Gnus ch=E9= ri et une config mail potable.. > 2. que l'ambiance reste bonne enfant et pas "mon OS est mieux que le > tien". Again, no pb. Je pense pas t'avoir jamais r=E9pliqu=E9 =E7a concernant KOS,= et m=EAme concernant Linux je pense qu'il y'a des choses int=E9ressantes.. (m=EAme si, =E9videmment, je suis pas d'accord *de base* avec la fa=E7on dont Linux est= fait) > Qu'en pensez-vous a HurdFR ? J'en pense =E7a. Je ne peux pas dire pour les autres. J'en discuterai avec = Ga=EBl (kilobug) et Mathieu (ghent) demain puisque je les vois, et si j'ai quelque= =20 chose =E0 rajouter, je mailerai ici. =3D) OSDevement,=20=20 [1]: http://www.fosdem.org --=20 Manuel Menal --=-=-=-- From thomas.petazzoni@enix.org Wed May 22 09:49:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: osdev-meeting@enix.org Received: from crazy (dijon-1-a7-62-147-69-100.dial.proxad.net [62.147.69.100]) by the-doors.enix.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3597210037 for ; Wed, 22 May 2002 09:49:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: by crazy (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DB3F81A804; Wed, 22 May 2002 10:00:44 +0200 (CEST) To: osdev-meeting@enix.org From: Thomas Petazzoni Original-Original-Sender: thomas.petazzoni@enix.org X-Home-Page: http://www.enix.org/~thomas/ Date: 22 May 2002 10:00:44 +0200 Message-ID: <87y9ectxw3.fsf@enix.org> Lines: 39 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: [Osdev-meeting] Reflexions Sender: osdev-meeting-admin@the-doors.enix.org Errors-To: osdev-meeting-admin@the-doors.enix.org X-BeenThere: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Salut, J'ai quelque peu reflechi au probleme du logement/bouffe pour l'organisation de l'OSDM. Tout d'abord pour la bouffe c'est bien simple : c'est utopique de penser qu'un RU va ouvrir pour 50 personnes. Si nous etions 1000 ou 1500 alors la oui, mais pour 50 personnes, ils ouvriront jamais un RU -> pour la bouffe on doit se demmerder tout seul. A priori il parait possible de trouver des volontaires pour faire la bouffe. Le probleme restant est d'avoir le matos pour faire la bouffe. Ensuite le logement. Honnetement, trouver une Cite U me parait aussi relativement complique, cher et la distance Cite U <-> salle sera peut etre grande, ce qui est pas terrible. Le seul souci avec loger dans l'endroit ou ont lieu les conferences/coding parties & co c'est qu'il n'y a pas de douche. C'est vraiment le seul probleme que je vois. J'ai une solution, mais apres faut pouvoir la mettre en pratique. En fait le top ca serait de trouver un gymnase universitaire. C'est grand pour faire dormir les gens, y'a des douches et souvent y'a une cuisine pour faire de la bouffe. Il nous faudrait donc un gymnase pour dodo/bouffe/lavage, puis une voire plusieurs vraies salles (amphis, salles de TDs) pour les conf et les coding parties. J'espere avoir de vos nouvelles tres bientot en ce qui concerne ce projet. J'ai vraiment pas envie que ce soit un projet mort n=E9, alors aidez-moi ! Bonne journee, Thomas --=20 PETAZZONI Thomas - thomas.petazzoni@enix.org - UIN : 34937744 (Perso) http://www.enix.org/~thomas/ (KOS) http://kos.enix.org/=20 (Club LinUT) http://club-linut.enix.org From thomas.petazzoni@enix.org Wed May 22 09:49:49 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: osdev-meeting@enix.org Received: from crazy (dijon-1-a7-62-147-69-100.dial.proxad.net [62.147.69.100]) by the-doors.enix.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B84610048 for ; Wed, 22 May 2002 09:49:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: by crazy (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2B0611A80A; Wed, 22 May 2002 10:01:13 +0200 (CEST) To: osdev-meeting@enix.org From: Thomas Petazzoni Original-Original-Sender: thomas.petazzoni@enix.org X-Home-Page: http://www.enix.org/~thomas/ Date: 22 May 2002 10:01:13 +0200 Message-ID: <87u1p0txva.fsf@enix.org> Lines: 23 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0803 (Gnus v5.8.3) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [Osdev-meeting] Estimation du nombre de personnes Sender: osdev-meeting-admin@the-doors.enix.org Errors-To: osdev-meeting-admin@the-doors.enix.org X-BeenThere: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Salut, En fait je pense qu'il serait bon d'estimer le nombre de personne qui viendront avec la manifestation. C'est bien gentil de dire qu'on va etre 50, mais si on se retrouve qu'a 20, meme si ca peut etre tres bien, on aura des frais importants, et si on a 70 ou 80 inscriptions, et qu'on peut pas les accueillir, c'est un peu con aussi. J'aimerais donc avoir vos suggestions concernant cette estimation. Comment procedez ? Bonne journee, Thomas PS : je remercie Aude pour tous les conseils donnees, et qui sont a l'origine de ces deux mails. -- PETAZZONI Thomas - thomas.petazzoni@enix.org - UIN : 34937744 (Perso) http://www.enix.org/~thomas/ (KOS) http://kos.enix.org/ (Club LinUT) http://club-linut.enix.org From skaya@calliope.enix.org Wed May 22 09:59:50 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org Received: from calliope.enix.org (calliope.enix.org [62.4.21.163]) by the-doors.enix.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8852110037 for ; Wed, 22 May 2002 09:59:50 +0200 (CEST) Received: by calliope.enix.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 950CA19829; Wed, 22 May 2002 10:12:08 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.1 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87y9ectxw3.fsf@enix.org> Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 10:12:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Jerome Petazzoni To: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org Subject: Re: [Osdev-meeting] Reflexions Sender: osdev-meeting-admin@the-doors.enix.org Errors-To: osdev-meeting-admin@the-doors.enix.org X-BeenThere: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > simple : c'est utopique de penser qu'un RU va ouvrir pour 50 > personnes. Si nous etions 1000 ou 1500 alors la oui, mais pour 50 il y a des RU ouverts pendant les vacances. à la fac en tout cas, il y a 2 RU, et pendant les vacances en général ils ferment l'un pendant que l'autre est "en révision". il y a parfois une courte période pendant laquelle les 2 sont fermés : le tout est de ne pas tomber dedans... From skaya@calliope.enix.org Wed May 22 10:01:08 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org Received: from calliope.enix.org (calliope.enix.org [62.4.21.163]) by the-doors.enix.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB9810037 for ; Wed, 22 May 2002 10:01:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: by calliope.enix.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3433519829; Wed, 22 May 2002 10:13:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.1 on Linux X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87u1p0txva.fsf@enix.org> Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 10:13:27 +0200 (CEST) From: Jerome Petazzoni To: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org Subject: Re: [Osdev-meeting] Estimation du nombre de personnes Sender: osdev-meeting-admin@the-doors.enix.org Errors-To: osdev-meeting-admin@the-doors.enix.org X-BeenThere: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > En fait je pense qu'il serait bon d'estimer le nombre de personne qui > viendront avec la manifestation. > J'aimerais donc avoir vos suggestions concernant cette > estimation. Comment procedez ? par inscriptions sur un site web, tout simplement ? chaque personne (équipe) indique au passage ce qu'elle peut présenter, ce qui permet d'avoir au passage une idée du "programme". From thomas.petazzoni@utbm.fr Wed May 22 13:34:14 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org Received: from gateway.utbm.fr (gateway.utbm.fr [193.48.246.2]) by the-doors.enix.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77DCB10037 for ; Wed, 22 May 2002 13:34:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from utbm.fr (IDENT:root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gateway.utbm.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.2) with ESMTP id LAA01610 for ; Wed, 22 May 2002 11:33:16 +0200 Message-ID: <3CEB65DB.52141C63@utbm.fr> Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 11:33:15 +0200 From: Thomas Petazzoni X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org Subject: Re: [Osdev-meeting] Reflexions References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: osdev-meeting-admin@the-doors.enix.org Errors-To: osdev-meeting-admin@the-doors.enix.org X-BeenThere: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org X-Reply-To: thomas.petazzoni@enix.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Salut, > il y a des RU ouverts pendant les vacances. à la fac en tout cas, > il y a 2 RU, et pendant les vacances en général ils ferment l'un > pendant que l'autre est "en révision". il y a parfois une courte > période pendant laquelle les 2 sont fermés : le tout est de ne pas > tomber dedans... Bin le probleme est simple : a quelle date va-t-on etre fixe sur les ouvertures des RU ? Tres tard a mon avis... et il faudra avoir prevu a l'avance comment on va bouffer. Finalement, je pense aue je me rapproche de plus en plus de l'idee d'un truc a l'arrache pour la bouffe, le seul vrai probleme restant les douches.... Thomas -- thomas.petazzoni@enix.org - icq #34937744 Projet KOS : http://kos.enix.org Club LinUT : http://club-linut.enix.org Page Perso : http://www.enix.org/~thomas/ From thomas.petazzoni@utbm.fr Wed May 22 13:34:15 2002 Return-Path: Delivered-To: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org Received: from gateway.utbm.fr (gateway.utbm.fr [193.48.246.2]) by the-doors.enix.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460F110047 for ; Wed, 22 May 2002 13:34:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from utbm.fr (IDENT:root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gateway.utbm.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.2) with ESMTP id LAA01339 for ; Wed, 22 May 2002 11:29:56 +0200 Message-ID: <3CEB6513.C3BC8F59@utbm.fr> Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 11:29:55 +0200 From: Thomas Petazzoni X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.8 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org Subject: Re: [Osdev-meeting] Estimation du nombre de personnes References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: osdev-meeting-admin@the-doors.enix.org Errors-To: osdev-meeting-admin@the-doors.enix.org X-BeenThere: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: osdev-meeting@the-doors.enix.org X-Reply-To: thomas.petazzoni@enix.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Salut, > par inscriptions sur un site web, tout simplement ? > chaque personne (équipe) indique au passage ce qu'elle > peut présenter, ce qui permet d'avoir au passage une > idée du "programme". Bin le probleme, c'est que nous voulons controler qui vient a cette manifestation, afin d'avoir des gens avec un niveau de competences suffisant... Ceci dit on peut toujours contacter les gens par mail individuellement (ou par projet), et leur indiquer l'url pour s'inscrire. Dans tous les cas, on s'arrangera pour verifier un minimum que la personne s'interesse vraiment aux OS, parce que c'est pas une download party qu'on veut organiser. Je pensais aussi a une mailing list pour les participants a mettre en place assez rapidement. On pourrait par exemple utiliser celle-ci, et creer osdev-meeting-org pour l'organisation. 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